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Idran1701 (7:09:59 PM): Hey, all.
CGNakibe (7:10:08 PM): Wassup?
Idran1701 (7:10:55 PM): Not much. I just wanted to have all of us talk about the last bit of stuff in Planescape, and some stuff that's been happening for a while. Shini, do you want to go over it, or do you want me to?
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:11:03 PM): *Go ahead.*
Idran1701 (7:11:08 PM): *nod*
CGNakibe (7:11:11 PM): Craaaazy.
Idran1701 (7:12:06 PM): Well, basically, Shini's been feeling that Lil's been the source of a lot of hostility from the rest of the party, that things often fall into everyone else vs. her.
Idran1701 (7:12:33 PM): The fight last night was the biggest part of that, and the three of us all somewhat contributed to that through Karin, Arian, and Martillo when it was just the three of them left with Lil.
CGNakibe (7:13:17 PM): She's also been the indirect agent of a lot of the plot movement at this point, as well.
Idran1701 (7:13:50 PM): Maybe, but that doesn't really make up for it.
Idran1701 (7:14:06 PM): First thing I wanted to talk about was how to help with just the last set of events.
NebbieQ (7:14:56 PM): Like I just mentioned to Idran, Martillo's going to get some information, before going back after Lil.
Idran1701 (7:15:07 PM): *nod* What about Arian, Shaun?
CGNakibe (7:20:24 PM): Its gonna be a little bit of blowing off steam for him.
Idran1701 (7:20:45 PM): Okay. And after that?
CGNakibe (7:20:56 PM): He'll definitely be back to maybe talk to her sometime soon, though.
Idran1701 (7:21:56 PM): I'm...honestly not sure what that means. Definitely be back to maybe talk to her?
CGNakibe (7:23:44 PM): He wants to talk to her about her contribution to the party, certainly. He's just having a hard time seeing how to approach the subject.
Idran1701 (7:23:57 PM): Ah.
Idran1701 (7:24:34 PM): Well, she's not really upset about them respecting her contribution. She wants them to respect _her_.
Idran1701 (7:25:10 PM): And on my side, Karin would probably be tracking her down with Martillo. I already admitted to Shini, her staying quiet while she left wasn't IC at all, that was my failing.
CGNakibe (7:25:12 PM): *nods* Which is what the whole bit about her dog was really about. >:p
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:25:22 PM): *The example I used for Idran:*
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:25:32 PM): *It's like respecting Scott Kurtz as an artist, and as a person.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:25:40 PM): *He's a decent artist, I think, but he's a shitty person.*
CGNakibe (7:26:17 PM): *nods*
Idran1701 (7:27:03 PM): That was what her reaction to Arian's wanting to just pay her was about too. That he thought so little of her that he'd rather pay her fee than say he respected her or apologize.
CGNakibe (7:30:15 PM): But from his view he already respects and appreciates her, and has gone just as much out of his way to defend her as she has him. He figured that Guy might get a bad opinion of her and... (cont'd)
CGNakibe (7:32:06 PM): in his mind he was doing what he could to make Guy at least wait till he had a chance to know her better before he automatically wrote her off. It was after that that he got pissed at her.
Idran1701 (7:32:38 PM): *nod* He might feel that way, yeah. But he didn't tell her that.
Idran1701 (7:34:33 PM): Lil right now is feeling that everyone in the party doesn't do much more than tolerate her. And not even that for some.
NebbieQ (7:34:45 PM): As for Martillo, he was frustrated with Lillium's "iiii'm gonna kick your ass" attitude. He does care about her, though, and wants to help her out.
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:38:43 PM): *To be fair, there's not really much else she can talk about. :(*
CGNakibe (7:40:47 PM): But yeah. Arian got pissed that he's basically been called a horrible person by one of the few folks he would go out of his way for.
Idran1701 (7:41:53 PM): *nod*
Idran1701 (7:44:24 PM): I know Lil was upset, but I never actually asked you what she really thinks of Arian and Martillo at this point, Shini. We talked about Karin, but not them. Would that come up when they get back together?
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:44:58 PM): *Maybe.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:45:05 PM): *Not entirely sure, circumstancial really.*
Idran1701 (7:46:12 PM): *nod* Well, we can get into that summary-wise here. So, when Marty and Karin show up, probably around the same time, they'd both apologize to her.
Idran1701 (7:46:31 PM): Karin, on her end, would admit that she should think better of Lil after all she's done for her, and that she should have listened to her more then.
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:46:48 PM): *As for what she currently thinks, she thought Arian was getting better, till he said he'd rather pay her an outlandish sum of money than simply say he was sorry and give her a little respect.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:47:00 PM): *She thinks Marty is a jerk for not appologizing to a puppy that's shown to understand what people say to it. :(*
CGNakibe (7:47:23 PM): Hahaha
NebbieQ (7:49:28 PM): Yeah, that was my fault. I didn't realize quite how alert Thorn was before the RP
NebbieQ (7:49:51 PM): And he did apologize to the dog, but he was very confused by Lillium at first, and afterwards didn't want her to think that he was doing it just becasue she threatened him.
CGNakibe (7:50:49 PM): Well, that one was something that you couldn't really be ICly told till you messed with him.
Idran1701 (7:50:54 PM): Well, Marty didn't know Thorn that well either, so I think it's fair to assume he didn't realize how alert Thorn was either.
Idran1701 (7:50:55 PM): Yeah.
CGNakibe (7:51:16 PM): And even the others find it a LITTLE odd.
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:54:20 PM): *I think, really, only Lil and Guy know how aware he is. But that still doesn't change it. :(*
Idran1701 (7:54:27 PM): *nod*
Idran1701 (7:54:46 PM): Well, the rest of the party might be more aware after this, then.
Idran1701 (7:54:54 PM): If Lil would explain that part of it, at least.
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:55:46 PM): *Yeah.*
Idran1701 (7:57:34 PM): *nod* Is there anything else Lil or Marty would bring up after he and Karin find her?
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:58:05 PM): *She'd probably just sulk, really. Typical "You don't need me, I'm fine without you, whatever" type stuff.*
NebbieQ (7:58:57 PM): Martillo would repeat his apology to the dog, out loud.
Idran1701 (7:59:10 PM): And Karin'd admit that she acted even worse than Marty, since she's talked to Arian about how they should do more to defend her.
TheWaiChibiAngel (7:59:23 PM): *Well it's not about the dog anymore now is it? >:*
CGNakibe (7:59:27 PM): Heh.
CGNakibe (7:59:34 PM): And yeah, Karin did talk about that.
NebbieQ (7:59:54 PM): It isn't. But he figures he should start small, before working his way up.
CGNakibe (8:01:11 PM): Arian will likely talk to Karin first, certainly. As Shini said, it clearly isn't about the dog anymore. But the hurt pride seems like it'll take several sessions to even begin to do something about.
Idran1701 (8:01:50 PM): Well, if they to get back to the inn with her, Karin'd insist that Arian talk to Lil first, at least.
Idran1701 (8:01:55 PM): *they do
CGNakibe (8:02:52 PM): OOC Arian: ... there's no way I can say "Hell No" to this, right. -.-;;
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:02:53 PM): *As it is, it would take some doing to get her to come back. She'd rather just sulk. With her lantern. And her dog.*
Idran1701 (8:03:53 PM): She shouldn't stay out all night. Any thugs that met her wouldn't deserve that. :(
CGNakibe (8:03:57 PM): Heh.
CGNakibe (8:04:05 PM): They're both in bad moods now.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:04:27 PM): *She could go with roughing up a few :(*
NebbieQ (8:05:47 PM): Also, Martillo would try to appeal to her ego, and her sense of glory
Idran1701 (8:06:22 PM): How so?
NebbieQ (8:06:52 PM): Going on about various sights in the plane, and how by adventuring she can gain a great reputation. People far and wide woudl speak of her deeds!
CGNakibe (8:10:03 PM): ... why do I have this odd image in my head of Lilium and Arian in a bar, deliberately not-looking at each other.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:10:04 PM): *She'd point out that Karl's apparantly found a way home.*
CGNakibe (8:10:10 PM): Arian: ".... weather's nice outside."
CGNakibe (8:10:21 PM): Lilium: "... yeah. >.>"
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:10:24 PM): *So, uh, the sights of the plains and adventuring? Yeah, going with the party ain't gonna get that for her.*
NebbieQ (8:10:46 PM): Well...does she want to head home?
NebbieQ (8:11:05 PM): He has a divine mandate to protect her. Which means that wherever she goes, he goes.
NebbieQ (8:11:21 PM): He does think that it would be for the best if they returned home. But that's out of his hands right now.
Idran1701 (8:12:07 PM): ...Karin'd be reluctant to say it, but Arian was talking about not going back to stay. But they can't tell anyone else.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:12:14 PM): *She doesn't need protection.*
NebbieQ (8:13:43 PM): But she will need aide of some sort.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:13:53 PM): *No she won't.*
Idran1701 (8:14:22 PM): ...Okay, maybe she doesn't need it. But does she want it?
Idran1701 (8:14:46 PM): No one likes being alone. :(
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:14:59 PM): *She's not alone.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:15:07 PM): *She's got her dog. And her lamp.*
CGNakibe (8:15:21 PM): Sounds pretty lonely to me.
Idran1701 (8:15:25 PM): Yeah, but it's not the same, having a dog and...a...lamp.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:15:28 PM): *Well it's not.*
NebbieQ (8:17:45 PM): Whatever she says, she's not going to get rid of him that easily.
NebbieQ (8:17:49 PM): He has a job to do, and he's doing it.
Idran1701 (8:18:11 PM): Karin doesn't have any sort of mandate, but she wants Lil to stay with them.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:19:06 PM): *She wouldn't respond for a moment, thenw onder aloud why everyone was so concerned for Guy after the fight, but nobody cared about her. If she was alive, she might've died from a fall like that.*
NebbieQ (8:19:55 PM): Well, Lil's sturdy, isn't she?
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:20:02 PM): *That's not the point!*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:20:41 PM): *Guy bites Lil and gets kicked, everyone goes "Oh Guy are you okay!?", Lil tries to punch Karl and gets "Well, you had that coming."*
Idran1701 (8:20:46 PM): ...Karin should have been concerned, yeah.
Idran1701 (8:22:08 PM): Would Lil stop her from putting a hand on her shoulder?
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:22:19 PM): *Probably not.*
Idran1701 (8:23:38 PM): Then she'd kneel down and do so, and be quiet for a bit; Lil can feel the remaining pain from the bite fade, and she can see a bruise appear on Karin's ankle.
Idran1701 (8:23:43 PM): If asked: it's a Sensate thing.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:24:16 PM): *She'd probably go off again, jumping away and screaming at her not to do that.*
Idran1701 (8:24:29 PM): ...What? What is it?
NebbieQ (8:24:41 PM): What's the matter?
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:25:04 PM): *What'd she do, steal the bite?*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:25:05 PM): *Asked, that.*
Idran1701 (8:25:32 PM): ...More that she took the injury.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:25:41 PM): *Well, don't!*
CGNakibe (8:25:59 PM): Arian really wouldn't have reacted any differently in that case. There's not a hell of a lot he could have done, and she can handle it a hell of a lot better than he can, he thought.
Idran1701 (8:26:01 PM): ...Why not?
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:26:53 PM): *Because Karin might steal the deadite-ness.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:27:14 PM): *Besides, Lil can take roughly six hundred times the pain Karin can.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:27:39 PM): *And it's not the bite, again! It's the principle.*
NebbieQ (8:28:13 PM): brb
Idran1701 (8:28:33 PM): Yeah, it's the principle. But Karin wanted to make it up to her, and that's a start. And she doesn't have to worry, Karin won't catch Lil's undeath, that was a different experience for her.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:29:03 PM): *Well, still, don't.*
Idran1701 (8:30:46 PM): ...All right. What else can she do, then?
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:31:27 PM): *Lil would think a moment, then slump down again. She doesn't know. :|*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:35:58 PM): *She doesn't want to go with people who don't respect her.*
Idran1701 (8:36:07 PM): Karin respects her.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:36:19 PM): *Guy's a good case, and Karl...She's thinking about cutting Karl's achilies while he's asleep.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:39:30 PM): *And if Karin respected her, why not say something when it was a problem?*
Idran1701 (8:41:06 PM): Because it all happened so fast, she was overwhelmed...it's not an excuse, she should have said something, but she didn't.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:42:52 PM): *So when the question of repsect or a ton of money came up, she told Arian how he could get some gold?*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:43:02 PM): *That hurt, too. :(*
Idran1701 (8:44:06 PM): ...She was wrong. :(
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:44:28 PM): *Lil would appear to be angry/sulky again. :(*
CGNakibe (8:44:33 PM): Arian respects her, odd as it may seem to her about now.
Idran1701 (8:46:08 PM): And if Lil lets her, Karin'd put an arm around her.
NebbieQ (8:47:10 PM): Back.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:48:25 PM): *..Okay, fine, arm. Whatever. :(*
Idran1701 (8:49:27 PM): They all respect Lil, even if they acted too poorly to say it before.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:50:30 PM): *She'd mumble that she doesn't know.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:50:49 PM): *All this time she could've just stayed near Davey, but she's been going with those guys.*
Idran1701 (8:51:45 PM): Karin's liked having her around.
NebbieQ (8:53:00 PM): Martillo will try to treat her better, too.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:55:01 PM): *..Really? Huh.*
Idran1701 (8:55:29 PM): ...What if Karin treated her to dinner somewhere? Wherever she wants, however fancy.
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:55:54 PM): *..She, uh, doesn't really eat so much anymore.*
Idran1701 (8:56:02 PM): Oh, right.
Idran1701 (8:56:42 PM): ...What about...well, she's probably not too much for theater...maybe an arena somewhere?
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:57:14 PM): *No, there's no point in that.*
Idran1701 (8:57:45 PM): ...One where she can take part?
TheWaiChibiAngel (8:58:06 PM): *..Still little point.*
Idran1701 (8:59:14 PM): Oh. Well...if she finds anything she would like, then Karin's willing.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:01:15 PM): *She's still not sure if she wants to come back.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:01:32 PM): *Karl certainly thinks all she's good for is heavy lifting. And that's only because he's gimp./*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:01:39 PM): *And Guy envys her thumbs.*
Idran1701 (9:02:32 PM): Well, they'll stand between her and Lil. Right? (to the others)
NebbieQ (9:03:55 PM): Right
Idran1701 (9:04:19 PM): *him and Lil
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:10:12 PM): *..Maybe she'll come back. She's still not sure.*
Idran1701 (9:11:31 PM): Well, they'd like her to come back.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:14:48 PM): *And they'll give her more respect?*
Idran1701 (9:15:03 PM): Karin definitely will.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:18:33 PM): *and the others?*
NebbieQ (9:19:21 PM): Martillo gives her his word.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:20:29 PM): *...Alright, she'll come.*
Idran1701 (9:22:40 PM): And that offer of Karin's still stands. Even if it comes down to taking her to a Sensorium to let Lil experience something of her choice.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:22:55 PM): *You know, maybe the theatre wouldn't be so bad.*
Idran1701 (9:23:09 PM): *nods*
CGNakibe (9:23:47 PM): Arian will admit that, perhaps, he hasn't voiced the respect he feels for Lilium before.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:25:08 PM): *Oh*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:25:15 PM): *She needs them to trust her, too.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:25:20 PM): *And odn't mess with her fuckin' lamp.*
Idran1701 (9:25:56 PM): Right.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:26:22 PM): *To be fair, she should probably tell them what's up with it.*
Idran1701 (9:27:36 PM): Karin admits she'd like to know.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:27:48 PM): *She'd ask the lamp if it minds.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:28:28 PM): *LIKE SHE SAID*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:28:32 PM): *She's working for the..Police..Guys.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:28:43 PM): *She's a warden! And the lantern is a jail cell, of sorts.*
Idran1701 (9:32:08 PM): With a "vworp" sound...well, that's Cirily sitting next to her, with something of a resigned expression on her face.
CGNakibe (9:34:13 PM): Arian will apologize for bothering her about her lamp.
Idran1701 (9:34:22 PM): (The anti-Prime angel, if Shaun and Neb don't remember her by name.)
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:35:16 PM): *She was going to complain taht she doesn't have any cool magic. Then she remembered she can do this.*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:35:31 PM): *"Cirily, would you kindly burn that stick?"*
Idran1701 (9:36:15 PM): With a sigh, she flicks a flame at it.
NebbieQ (9:36:18 PM): ...so that's what happened to her.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:36:36 PM): *Who needs magic when you can have other people do it for you?*
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:37:06 PM): *(I also got to work in "Would You Kindly" into an RP ICly :D)*
Idran1701 (9:37:11 PM): (:D)
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:39:30 PM): *Anyway, that about wraps it up for me.*
NebbieQ (9:39:41 PM): (...shit, I didn'te ven notice that)
Idran1701 (9:40:17 PM): Oh, it's from something? I thought it was just a nice turn of phrase.
TheWaiChibiAngel (9:40:37 PM): *I can explain in IM.*
Idran1701 (9:43:23 PM): *nod*
Idran1701 (9:43:45 PM): Anyway, thanks all. I'm glad things worked out, and hopefully you'll have a better time in the game from here out, Shini.
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